Dungeon, Raid, and PvP Changes

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Classic vs Forever Deep Dive

Nine new dungeons, Barrow Deeps, Hyjal Summit, and Onyxia's Lair on December 9, Darkspear Islands, and a new way to find groups.

Adventurers clashing with dungeon monstrosities inside ancient halls
Nine new dungeons, three raids on December 9, and a new 15-vs-15 battleground.

Group content grows across the whole journey. Nine new dungeons bring long-discussed places in the original world to life, from the Hall of Thanes beneath Ironforge to the Shaper's Terrace.

At level 60, raids unlock on December 9: Barrow Deeps for 10 players, Hyjal Summit for 20, and Onyxia's Lair for 40. The first tier offers a raid for every group size, and the Darkspear Islands battleground brings 15-vs-15 PvP.

Nine New DungeonsNew

Fog-shrouded stone walls and a weathered statue in the Ruins of Lordaeron dungeon
The Ruins of Lordaeron is one of nine new dungeons on the road to 60.

The new dungeons give you fresh reasons to revisit familiar corners of the world: helping the Forsaken reclaim the Ruins of Lordaeron, investigating strange magical trouble in the City of Dalaran, uncovering titan mysteries in Un'Goro, facing naga and pirates around the Drowned City, and confronting corruption in the depths of Blackmaw Hold.

Every dungeon drop across the game has been re-examined, unique boss items are blue quality, and advanced camping Blueprint recipes drop from specific dungeon bosses.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
The original dungeon list.Hall of Thanes, Ruins of Lordaeron, an excavation above Whelgar's Excavation, City of Dalaran, Blackmaw Hold, Drowned City, Krol'dok Stronghold, Alcaz Prison, and Shaper's Terrace.
Player Impact:Dungeon runs become a bigger part of leveling, with new places, new loot, and new crafting recipes.
Related Tools & Guides:Dungeons → · Nine New Dungeons →

Raids on December 9: Barrow Deeps, Hyjal Summit, and Onyxia's LairNew

Furbolg guards before a carved wooden door deep inside Barrow Deeps
Barrow Deeps opens on December 9 as the 10-player raid of the first tier.

Raids open about five weeks after launch. Barrow Deeps is a maximum-level challenge for 10 players, Hyjal Summit brings 20-player encounters to one of Warcraft's most important locations, and Onyxia's Lair returns for 40. New tier sets and a legendary reward come with them.

The roadmap adds two more raids in spring 2027, one for 10 players and one for 20, then a revamped iconic raid and another new raid in summer 2027.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
Molten Core and Onyxia's Lair as the first raids, both for 40 players.Barrow Deeps (10 players), Hyjal Summit (20 players), and Onyxia's Lair (40 players) unlock together on December 9.

December 9 Raids

  • Barrow Deeps: 10 players.
  • Hyjal Summit: 20 players.
  • Onyxia's Lair: 40 players.
Player Impact:Guilds of every size have a raid from day one of the first tier.
Related Tools & Guides:Release Date and Roadmap →

Darkspear Islands: A 15-vs-15 BattlegroundNew

Coastal fortification on the Darkspear Islands battleground
Darkspear Islands pits 15 Alliance against 15 Horde off the coast of Kalimdor.

Darkspear Islands combines strategic control points with Arathi Basin-style flag captures and defense.

Battlegrounds and PvP content progress you through an Honor ranking system with 14 ranks for each PvP season or patch cycle, with cosmetic rewards and armor with PvP stats. The roadmap includes PvP season refreshes in 2027.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
Warsong Gulch, Arathi Basin, and Alterac Valley.A new 15-vs-15 battleground off the coast of Kalimdor.
Player Impact:PvP players get a new battleground to master alongside the classics, feeding the same Honor ranks.
Related Tools & Guides:PvP →

Meeting Stones Find Groups Instead of SummoningChanged

Meeting Stones outside dungeons now open a group listing feature, letting you list your group or discover others.

They no longer summon players, so your party travels to the entrance together, unless you have a Warlock. The developers see that downtime as a chance for players to meet and talk.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
Meeting Stones summoned party members to the dungeon entrance.Meeting Stones open a group finder where you list and discover groups; they no longer summon.
Player Impact:Finding a group gets easier, and the trip to the dungeon stays part of the adventure.
Related Tools & Guides:Dungeons →

Item Stats Stay Hidden Until Something DropsNew

Blizzard told MMORPG that it is obfuscating items across the game. You do not see what an item does until it drops for you or for someone on your server, so a tier cannot be solved on paper before anyone sets foot in it.

There is no Dungeon Journal either, which means boss abilities are learned by meeting them. Blizzard expects the first week of a raid to be genuinely unsettled, with best-in-slot lists assembled by players as drops surface.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
Stats and boss abilities are published before a tier opens.Item stats stay hidden until the item drops, and there is no Dungeon Journal.

What This Changes About Preparation

  • An item’s stats become visible once it has dropped for you or on your server.
  • No Dungeon Journal, so boss abilities are not listed in the client.
  • Best-in-slot lists exist, but they are written after the fact rather than before launch.
Player Impact:Walking into a new raid means finding out what is in there, and the group that adapts fastest gets the first clear.
Related Tools & Guides:Class Gear →

Forgotten Loot Finds Its Way to Your MailboxNew

Seen in the beta: when you leave an item behind in a dungeon, it is not lost. It arrives later in your mailbox, in a letter from Rix Xizzix of the Steamwheedle Lost and Found.

In Classic, a Rare or Epic that nobody picked up vanished once the corpse despawned, and the only fix was another run. Forever turns that into a trip to the mailbox.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
An item left on a corpse is gone once the corpse despawns.Dungeon drops you forget to loot are mailed to you by the Steamwheedle Lost and Found.
Player Impact:A rushed pull or a disconnect no longer costs you a drop you already earned.
Related Tools & Guides:Dungeons →

Dungeon Quests Pay, Dungeon Grinding Does NotChanged

Principal designer Kris Zierhut said the experience from killing monsters inside dungeons has been brought way down, while the experience for completing dungeon quests has gone much higher.

Blizzard's October 1 beta notes trimmed the payout: dungeon quests now give 50% less extra experience beyond a normal quest. They still beat open-world quests, by a smaller margin.

The overall 1 to 60 curve is unchanged, so this is not a slower game. What moved is where your experience comes from: run a dungeon for its quests and it pays very well, run the same one again and again and it no longer does. Blizzard’s stated aim is to send players back into the open world, where they meet each other.

Classic BaselineWoW Forever Overhaul
Grinding dungeon trash is one of the fastest ways to level.Kill experience inside dungeons drops sharply, and dungeon quest experience rises sharply.

How to Read the New Maths

  • Pick up every quest attached to a dungeon before your first run of it.
  • A first clear with its quests turned in is worth far more than a repeat clear.
  • The total experience needed for 1 to 60 has not changed.
Player Impact:Your dungeon trips become deliberate: go in with the quests in hand, then take the next stretch of levels outside.
Related Tools & Guides:Leveling → · Dungeons →

Getting Your Group Ready

  • Run each new dungeon on the way to 60: they hold re-examined loot and the Blueprint recipes for advanced camp objects.
  • Settle your raid roster before December 9: 10, 20, and 40-player raids all open that day.
  • Invite a Warlock: with no Meeting Stone summons, a Warlock summon saves your group the trip.

Frequently Asked Questions

Is Onyxia's Lair in WoW Forever?

Yes. Onyxia's Lair returns as a 40-player raid on December 9, alongside Barrow Deeps and Hyjal Summit.

What raids come after December 9?

Spring 2027 brings two new raids, for 10 and 20 players. Summer 2027 adds a revamped iconic raid and another new raid.

Where to Go Next

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